Visiting the Hijab… Again.
October 7, 2009
Farah
Last month a forum was held at the Adelaide Festival of Ideas focussing on Islam and feminism. Called “Beyond the Veil: Islam and Feminism”, it involved Dr Professor Gary Bouma, a sociology academic at Monash University, Zainah Anwar, founder of Malaysian group Sisters in Islam (SIS) and a founding director of Musawah and Dr Shakira Hussein, an academic at ANU.
So with big expectations about the forum and the issues that would (potentially) be discussed, the title irritates me. Articles with the title beyond/under/underneath/uncovering/taking off/doing something to the hijab/veil/burka and other similar metaphors fixate on items of clothing and taking them off. The moderator mentioned that the word “beyond” was chosen because they wanted a discussion on Islam and feminism which included the hijab in the discussion but wasn’t fixated on it. It’s a valid sentiments but it could’ve been done without the reference to it.
The forum goes over 1 hour long and some interesting points were made (you can download the podcast here). In this post I wanted to focus on a few points made in the debate. For me the most interesting aspect was hearing Zainah Anwar speak. The development of gender politics in South East Asia is a really interesting area and I’ve done some research focusing on the work Sisters in Islam do in Malaysia. Throughout the forum Anwar highlights the challenge she believes Muslim feminists pose by questioning the authority of male-dominated institutions – “who decides this is the verse that determines the relationship between men and women? Who decides which interpretation will be favoured over the other?” The question of ‘authority’ is a significant one. Women’s groups are operating within a traditionally male-dominated environment. Law and social reform by these groups is met with a constant stream of arguments against their struggle in order to silence these dissenting voices within society. The recent experience of SIS highlights this point. They spoke out against the caning of Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno, but have been accused of being agents for foreign anti-Islamic groups. On this issue I’d add to Anwar that (it’s clichéd but true) history is written by people with authority – people who shape our understanding of past events. For Islam this means that a rich history of women’s leadership and empowerment is denied to women. Like Anwar states, these are tactics used by men to maintain the status quo: to silence and delegitimize dissenting voices in society.
Early in the forum Hussein mentions an important point on discussions of Islam. Women are included in the discussion but are routinely sidelined to discuss only the hijab, whereas men are given the space and power to discuss everything else which affects Muslims. Krista at MMW made a similar point when reviewing a forum organised by ISNA. Another point which Hussein highlights is the obsession with the hijab. The hijab continues to be the focal point of the discussion on Islam and women’s rights especially among non-Muslims (Chesler v Wolf, anyone?) While discussion on Islamic feminism should go further than the hijab, Muslim women respond to those writers because our voices should be included within the debate. But the same issues get repeated again and again and it’s difficult to try and move beyond that discussion because so much of the focus is on the hijab. It’s something I’ve encountered here at Nuseiba – I’ve written a lot of non-hijab posts but there’s an equal amount of posts focussing on the hijab. I think I’ve discussed the hijab more on this blog than anywhere else which is a little odd for me sometimes because I don’t have that much experience with it. In the end, the constant focus on the hijab obscures the real issue: challenging the structures which perpetuate the disempowerment of women.
Another point which was mentioned in the forum and is often overlooked is the diversity among Muslim woman’s dress. For the majority of Muslim women the distinction isn’t as simple as being veiled/unveiled. Hussein discusses her experiences in Pakistan, and their quite similar to mine with the Kashmiris I know. I mentioned above that I don’t have much experience with the hijab and I don’t – in my family and wider community there’s only 3 women who wear the hijab. However, while women don’t wear the hijab, they do veil when the situation requires them to. Most of the women, including my mother, wear shalwar kameez and cover their hair with their dupattas when they need too. Veiling and unveiling is more a continuum of experience rather than a strict dichotomy. There are women who wear hijab and women who don’t, there are some women who fall in between those two positions, some women used to wear the hijab but decided to stop, some don’t wear the hijab but want to, some who don’t at all but wear modest clothes otherwise and not all women who wear hijab do so in the same way. These sound like simple enough points to be making but its a diversity which is often overlooked in debates on women’s dress in Islam. In the end, there are no easy cookie cutter categories to slot in Muslim women. The hijab represents just one aspect of that diversity.
One of the questions asked by the audience at the end of the forum was whether western feminists have a place commenting on Muslim women. It’s an issue that’s come up time and time again, on this blog and elsewhere. Both Anwar and Hussein stressed that in regards to gender politics within Islam Muslim women must lead the way to change. Feminists decrying the Taliban were criticised for taking up that struggle ahead of the women they were ‘liberating’. Afghan women were sidelined in the debate and denied the agency to fight their own struggle. Anwar also mentions an important point which Hussein has also mentioned elsewhere – imposed solutions do not work. You can’t force liberation on people. Anwar cites the example of Amina Lawal where Nigerian women’s groups criticised the action taken by international human rights groups. The Nigerian women wanted to challenge their own legal system. Muslim women need to win the battle domestically so that the change is rooted within social practice and is sustainable over the long term. However, whether this means that western non-Muslim feminists are completely precluded from commenting on issues effecting Muslim women wasn’t ruled out by Anwar or Hussein. My own position is to say leave it alone. But while would be great if non-Muslim feminists stopped talking endlessly about the hijab and burqa and polygamy etc I don’t think they ever will. One commentator on Sahar’s last post said that Sahar wasn’t leaving much room for Western non-Muslim feminists to enter into a conversation about ‘global feminist interests’. Ultimately, maybe that’s the problem – the assumption that they have an interest at stake in the discussion on women’s rights within Islam.
While the forum didn’t completely challenge my ideas on Islam and feminism, the speakers mentioned some very interesting points – things which tend to be overlooked. Overall, the forum is a good introduction to the diversity of opinion in Islam and gender politics.
October 7, 2009 at 3:32 am
OOOOOOH. GREAT POST.
May we feature it on MMW?
October 7, 2009 at 7:46 am
feminism and religion are the problems and questions which can be discussed for hours. Always it will be possible to find people who are for and against of these questions and both cathegories will find strong proves of their belief. and both of them will be right.
October 10, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Great piece.
“Veiling and unveiling is more a continuum of experience rather than a strict dichotomy.”
I really like this point, as it opens the door to looking at the hijab differently, although this means more looking at it
However, in Malaysia, I know that what Muslim women put on their heads is a dichomotous matter. However you’re dressed, whether you’ve wearing a short-sleeved t-shirt or a baju kurung (a kameez and long skirt), only the headscarf can make you ‘modest’ and be treated with a little more respect.
October 11, 2009 at 4:41 pm
The authors on this blog seem to have a fetish for Hijab. Isn’t there anything else you think concerns the Moslem women of the world?
From your Ivory Towers, it may just seem that you’re doing women around the world a lot of good by completely being obsessed with it. Guess what? People have bigger problems.
But you won’t know, would you?
October 12, 2009 at 4:34 am
@Hfet Welcome to Nuseiba *waves from my ivory tower*. On a serious note though did you read the post? Specifically paragraph four. Right.
@cycads – thanks. And you’re right about the Malaysian experience as well. There are a lot of women who fall into those two positions, but there are women who fall in between.
October 18, 2009 at 7:59 am
ok, farah. You’ve made your point
Still, the point remains — how do you distribute gender politics in an equitable way to reflect the concerns of the women who are affected by their issues?
I agree with you wholeheartedly that the central thematic should presently focus on “challenging the structures which perpetuate the disempowerment of women”. However, such a challenge will lose its momentum once those structures are dismantled or even weakened partially. My point being, a handful of women who are aware and well-informed about how to tackle these issues are just not enough to maintain the momentum of the campaign.
If you take a good look around, you will also notice that not much is being done to include disadvantaged Moslem women in these debates. There are no public platforms (if there are, its nearly never enough) for women to participate, contribute and reconstruct the social norms that Moslem women will want to adapt after the Male Overlords (thats us) are de-throned. I just feel that the on-going debates in first-world countries don’t do squat for women in under-developed or developing countries.
The debate while equally important, is very limited in its wider, long-term impact on the quality of life of Moslem Women. The exclusivity of the Moslem Women’s club has to be re-considered. Lest, you want to end up looking like male chauvanists
p.s. Good post, as always.
October 19, 2009 at 2:42 am
salaam sis. farah,
Jazakallaahu khayr for your post, I just had a couple of issues with some aspects of it that I’d like to get your response to. It appears as if you have good intentions in your arguments but I just had some issues with the following, I look forward to your response.
When reading your post, it feels as if you’re replying to a debate already established by Western feminists. The framework of Muslim women being oppressed by hijab isn’t engaged with here and one is left with the impression (I’m not suggesting this is the case, just that it comes across that way in your writing) that you accept such an assumption. This is due to the response to the women being oppressed notion being countered with examples of how “diverse” Muslim women’s dress is in reality.
Following on from that last point, I found the diversity response a little problematic in that it is individualistic. It attempts to show that we too, are just like you westerners as we are not a unitary community, but rather a collection of individuals with widely differing viewpoints. I don’t see how this is relevant to be honest, except as an attempt to fit into the dominant framework of the West, to show that we are just like you, which I also feel is a symptom of us remaining on the back foot constantly.
I also found this section somewhat problematic:
“Throughout the forum Anwar highlights the challenge she believes Muslim feminists pose by questioning the authority of male-dominated institutions – “who decides this is the verse that determines the relationship between men and women? Who decides which interpretation will be favoured over the other?” The question of ‘authority’ is a significant one. Women’s groups are operating within a traditionally male-dominated environment.”
Once again, I feel that this is also a defensive position, replying to a debate with predetermined parameters. Furthermore, it’s an attack on our history of scholarship. This argument is the one used to undermine the wide breadth of Islamic scholarship by claiming that the Muslim jurists were sexist. There is a clear agenda behind this argument as it is part of the attempt to pull the teeth out of Islam. We cannot on one hand criticise liberals for misusing Islam and turn a blind eye to feminists who do the same thing, it’s intellectually dishonest and inconsistent.
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November 5, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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